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PostSubject: Arden Grange {Dry-food}   Fri Oct 22, 2010 5:12 pm

Hello everyone
Just to say that i dont feed my dogs raw foods
I feed Arden Grange link below
This is what i feed mookie & molly
http://www.ardengrange.com/Pet-Food/performance-dog-food.asp
And this is what Hobo will be having
http://www.ardengrange.com/Pet-Food/dog-food.asp?id=3
The puppy one is for growing large breeds, and they contain natural ingredience

I just wondered will this be ok for Hobo
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PostSubject: Re: Arden Grange {Dry-food}   Fri Oct 22, 2010 5:57 pm

Well I haven't fed dry food for a very long time, before I fed raw I fed the meat cooked. When I got Cariad and Lona from Lyn she recommended Pro Plan Puppy for large breeds,which I tried for a while,wasn't very keen on the downloads, then ended up mixing it with raw and then going completely raw. I weaned my puppies onto raw,I did have a brief flirtation with Cariad's litter, with the Proplan Puppy, but the end product was disgusting and smelly compared to raw, which has no smell at all and is very tiny and easy to pick up, so they very quickly went onto complete raw. Lona's puppies were just weaned straight onto raw and unless someone has changed them, that is what they are still eating. When my puppies leave here I freeze a weeks worth of meals and they go with them, with extensive notes!!!!
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PostSubject: Re: Arden Grange {Dry-food}   Sat Oct 23, 2010 12:07 pm

Arden Grange is certainly one of the better dried foods, but I honestly wouldn't consider feeding ANY dog anything other than a natural diet - which is of course raw meat and bones - let alone a northern breed. Huskies, Mals, GSDs, Utonagans, NI's, Czechies, Saarloos, they all thrive on raw feeding, and many - dare I even say most - eventually, sooner or later, become extremely ill on commercial dog food. My Hal almost died at 5 years old when suddenly out of the blue his anus prolapsed, so badly blocked with the glands, and he was in a dreadful state. Instant and total conversion to the BARF diet saved his life and we never looked back.

Be very, very careful about feeding anything other than a natural diet - it can suddenly all go belly up out of the blue, after years of apparent perfect health!
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PostSubject: Re: Arden Grange {Dry-food}   Sat Oct 23, 2010 12:16 pm

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Arden Grange is certainly one of the better dried foods, but I honestly wouldn't consider feeding ANY dog anything other than a natural diet - which is of course raw meat and bones - let alone a northern breed. Huskies, Mals, GSDs, Utonagans, NI's, Czechies, Saarloos, they all thrive on raw feeding, and many - dare I even say most - eventually, sooner or later, become extremely ill on commercial dog food. My Hal almost died at 5 years old when suddenly out of the blue his anus prolapsed, so badly blocked with the glands, and he was in a dreadful state. Instant and total conversion to the BARF diet saved his life and we never looked back.

Be very, very careful about feeding anything other than a natural diet - it can suddenly all go belly up out of the blue, after years of apparent perfect health!


Thanx
I think im scared of the RAW FOODS DIET but i have taken your words on board and i will try when i get Hobo. What dryed food would you say is o0k. My vets mentioned some wellbolved one but i dont know anything about it??
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PostSubject: Re: Arden Grange {Dry-food}   Mon Oct 25, 2010 10:26 am

where abouts in south yorkshire are you based lupinaine?
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PostSubject: Re: Arden Grange {Dry-food}   Mon Oct 25, 2010 10:41 am

http://www.naturalinstinct.com/
I am feeding this at the moment and Maska sure does enjoy it. I can't say he looks any better since I switched to this he doesn't but I am giving it a go and he certainly gives it the 'thumbs up'
I am still in two minds about raw feeding, so this was a compromise for me. Maska does enjoy a big bone but I cannot bring myself to feed him things like chicken bones etc. I have no problem with raw food but do worry about giving a dog smaller bones....just me!
I have done lots of research in to BARF v other kinds of feeding and I can still not decide which I feel is right. Personally, I would go for the best quality food you can afford to give the dog which ever side you eventually come down on.
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PostSubject: Re: Arden Grange {Dry-food}   Mon Oct 25, 2010 4:49 pm

sorry couldnt tell you as i feed raw as well, have for a long time
and have been using natural instincts for a while now the dogs love it ive got no worries in sorting out veg & fruit etc. it all comes ready sorted vit,s and everything all you do is defrost it bung it in a bowl then give them a bone.
and shadows coat has a silvery sparkle to it and my dals have got a bit softer coat thats the fish oil they put in.
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PostSubject: Re: Arden Grange {Dry-food}   Mon Oct 25, 2010 4:53 pm

I do worry when pet foods advertise they include grain and "ash" surely that can't be good for any animal, especially one that is designed to process raw meat scratch
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PostSubject: Re: Arden Grange {Dry-food}   Mon Oct 25, 2010 4:59 pm

What I want to know Carol..is why your dogs have improved eating it and Maska has not!!!!! Where are Maska's silvery sparkles. That is what I want to know.... Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Arden Grange {Dry-food}   Mon Oct 25, 2010 5:47 pm

Hi Joce, I get salmon oil for mine off ebay, fantastic for the coat. You need to just do it as regards chicken bones/wings/carcasses, it goes against everything you have ever been told, yes, but that is COOKED bones, these are raw and are bendy and don't splinter, once you have done it once and seen he is fine you will get past it, just go for it!!! None of ours has suffered, Lyn has been raw feeding for 6 or maybe 7 generations now, so if anything would have been wrong she would have found out and we would all have known.
Diane, with a puppy aged under 20 weeks you have to be careful about the percent of bone as youngsters cannot dispose of excess calcium, I found that a chicken wing was about the right quantity, after 20 weeks they are able to dispose of excess calcium, so you don't have to be as careful with quantity of bone.

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PostSubject: Re: Arden Grange {Dry-food}   Mon Oct 25, 2010 7:45 pm

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Hi Joce, I get salmon oil for mine off ebay, fantastic for the coat. You need to just do it as regards chicken bones/wings/carcasses, it goes against everything you have ever been told, yes, but that is COOKED bones, these are raw and are bendy and don't splinter, once you have done it once and seen he is fine you will get past it, just go for it!!! None of ours has suffered, Lyn has been raw feeding for 6 or maybe 7 generations now, so if anything would have been wrong she would have found out and we would all have known.
Diane, with a puppy aged under 20 weeks you have to be careful about the percent of bone as youngsters cannot dispose of excess calcium, I found that a chicken wing was about the right quantity, after 20 weeks they are able to dispose of excess calcium, so you don't have to be as careful with quantity of bone.


Think i will give the salmon oil a go
http://shop.ebay.co.uk/?_from=R40&_trksid=p3907.m570.l1311&_nkw=salmon+oil&_sacat=See-All-Categories
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PostSubject: Re: Arden Grange {Dry-food}   Mon Oct 25, 2010 7:51 pm

The Kronch is the best

http://shop.ebay.co.uk/?_from=R40&_trksid=p3907.m570.l1313&_nkw=kronch+salmon+oil&_sacat=See-All-Categories

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PostSubject: Re: Arden Grange {Dry-food}   Mon Oct 25, 2010 7:54 pm

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Awfal wrote:
Arden Grange is certainly one of the better dried foods, but I honestly wouldn't consider feeding ANY dog anything other than a natural diet - which is of course raw meat and bones - let alone a northern breed. Huskies, Mals, GSDs, Utonagans, NI's, Czechies, Saarloos, they all thrive on raw feeding, and many - dare I even say most - eventually, sooner or later, become extremely ill on commercial dog food. My Hal almost died at 5 years old when suddenly out of the blue his anus prolapsed, so badly blocked with the glands, and he was in a dreadful state. Instant and total conversion to the BARF diet saved his life and we never looked back.

Be very, very careful about feeding anything other than a natural diet - it can suddenly all go belly up out of the blue, after years of apparent perfect health!


Thanx
I think im scared of the RAW FOODS DIET but i have taken your words on board and i will try when i get Hobo. What dryed food would you say is o0k. My vets mentioned some wellbolved one but i dont know anything about it??


IMO NO dried food is OK - particularly the make you mentioned, James Wellbeloved. One bowl of James Wellbeloved kibble for sensitive stomachs caused Hal to have such bad diarrhoea for so long that he had to be blasted with very strong antibiotics to kill all the bacteria in his gut, good and bad, and then start again repopulating him with the good bacteria. It was an absolute nightmare, my advice is don't touch JW with a bargepole. If you must feed dried, I am told that Burns is good and Arden Grange, and also the new one by Applaws but it is very expensive.
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PostSubject: Re: Arden Grange {Dry-food}   Mon Oct 25, 2010 7:57 pm

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What I want to know Carol..is why your dogs have improved eating it and Maska has not!!!!! Where are Maska's silvery sparkles. That is what I want to know.... Very Happy


dont forget shadows a silver black her should sparkle in the right light it does have to hit it the right way to sparkle.
they put all the oils in the food you need joce for the coat but maska,s coat super condition anyway lovely soft etc etc. and i bet its a little softer and i bet in the right light maska's prob does.
shadows coat has been funny and in the spring it went can only say manky yuck so put her on a blend lyn told me so much improvement and with this food it went even better.
now mia's coat hasnt changed she has a super coat anyway' merlins did improve a bit not much his coat was a lot better than shadows anyway.

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PostSubject: Re: Arden Grange {Dry-food}   Mon Oct 25, 2010 7:59 pm

I am also told that Royal Canin is OK as well, but after all the stuff I have read about what goes into the dried stuff you would never get me near it again, much less recommending it, like feeding your kids a solid diet of Big Macs, cheap cereal and e numbers really, would you do that to your kids???

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